is the white house suggesting that chris wallace is biassed? >> well, i think it's foolish to leave fox out of that because i don't think -- i think chris wallace is a tough customer on those shows, but, you know, joe, i don't understand the roadblock he's doing. when the president of the united states goes on david gregory's show, "meet the press," which is the number one show, anyone -- the best lines from that will be picked up and carried nationwide on all the cable shows and on all the network news shows all day long. you can get that same hit. if you do five shows, there's a possibility you can make one blunder in those shows and one mistake, and that's what's going to be repeated everywhere. the white house has clearly rejected the advice of those of us who say you're overusing your main asset and then deciding to go all out with it, or the president has. it's his call, but i don't think it's the right course right now. >> mark, you were saying earlier -- >> i think that's old think. >> you're saying that's old think, but it makes perfec